It is likely that the conspirators had decided to burn a coach of this train as it used to pass Godhra during the night. Have Scott Morrison and Daniel Andrews (or their parties) been PAID BY VACCINE COMPANIES? If the High Court throws out the ABSURD STORY cooked up by Modi (and judge Patel) to "explain" the Godhra train burning, then it would be clear that the train burning was a BAD but UNINTENDED INCIDENT, removing any possible excuse for Modi to not have prevented the post-Godhra killings. When an analysis is to be done, it has to be done in an objective way without any bias. Sure, I would like to understand what are you are trying to say. People also ignore the work Modi has done in improving justice delivery through evening courts. My interest is different. I’ve read/scanned nearly 3000 pages and 12 hours of video. <<<>>> This is typical response of those who call themselves secular. The tale of Ayodhya Ayodhya is a small town located on the banks of river Sarayu in the state of Uttar Pradesh. A special Special Investigative Team (SIT) court on Wednesday (March 20) sentenced convict Yakub Pataliya to life imprisonment in 2002 Godhra train carnage case. PCR testing – how many cycles are used in Australia? These guys are beyond belief. This attack happened just 6 months after the Gujarat riots, it was clearly aimed at disturbing the troubled water. Do they speak loudly and bother others in public places? « This is how the train MIGHT HAVE gotten burnt. The train was not burnt at the railway station, but at Signal Falia. So just like you insist on proof, I would also like a more structured response in order to understand what you are saying. Stockholm riots in 2013 also continued for atleast 10 days. I would urge you to PROVE to me the precise method by which the train got burnt. Just bin it. ... On 7–5–2002, we inspected the coach and the site where it was burnt. If the Muslims of Godhra had to burn down the train, they could have chosen any location, except waiting till the train entered this staunchly Hindu state. In the 2002 cases from Gujarat, most of those convicted-- both in the Sabarmati Express attack in Godhra, as well as for the subsequent attacks on Muslims in various parts of Gujarat including those claiming to be supporters of the government-- have appealed the verdict. Sanjeev Sabhlok, pl read this: GODHRA: THE TRUE STORY by Nicole Elfi http://www.jaia-bharati.org/nicole-elfi/ni-godhra-ang.htm. Godhra train burning convict on death row jumps parole. Because they didnt believe that state will deliver justice. Gujrat Godhra Train Burnt, Attack or Accident, WHATS the TRUTH ? Further, I am absolutely no clear, how on earth you are denying the history. In the next 2-3 yrs, Guj will become the first state to have no pending cases in courts. There have been three incidents of massive communal violence in recent decades. download http://sanjeev.sabhlokcity.com/Misc/The-truth-about-Modi.doc. that Nanawati said there were a few people from the mob who carried 140 litres of petrol into the train and burnt it. This is the precise thing that keeps happening in India in the name of secularism. We don’t have to take sides. Terror attacks are normally not done on temples. This entry was posted in Current Affairs, India. This was 500-700 meters away from the Godhra railway station, at Signal Falia area. Sarfy, I agree with the general tenor of your analysis. Not arrest VHP leaders to prevent violence. That is the question to be tested/confirmed. Explained: Coach S-6 of the Sabarmati Express train caught fire in which 59 people were killed. ). WION spoke to human rights activist and the Director of Human Rights Watch in South Asia, Meenakshi Ganguly on the issue. My Times of India articles | My Times of India blog and planned articles, Becoming Rich and Powerful: A Primer for the Citizens of Pakistan, India and Bangladesh, Seeing the Invisible: A book on economics for children, Scientific Hinduism Book 1: The role of meat in a healthy diet, Scientific Hinduism Book 2: Brahminical (caste) Hinduism: a system of institutionalised oppression. Allow them to parade them. Just focus on my key point – That MODI IS A HUGE LIAR AND PLANNER OF MAJOR KILLINGS OF INDIANS. We oppose the death penalty. Muslims continue to get shielded, whether it is riots cases or terror cases. Sarfy mentioned this on FB: Any kind of analysis of the Godhra train incident implies that we endorse Sangh Parivar's bigoted view that if Muslims burnt the train, innocent Muslims deserved to be killed in the riots thereafter. Who do you think should take moral responsibility for the failure? Initially, 11 of the perpetrators of the Godhra carnage were given death sentences. He NEEDS the shelter of Godhra burning being PRE-PLANNED in order to protect himself from the charge of INCITEMENT TO MURDER. If there is justice, such instance will not happen. On 25 February, 1,700 people, a mix of pilgrims and karsevaks boarded the Sabarmati Express which was bound for Ahmedabad. Please start reading my writings and dirprove them one by one. These are BOGUS reports. If you can’t prove any flaw in my analysis, then you must agree that Modi was LYING THROUGH HIS TEETH when he said that ISI caused the burning, and that it was pre-planned. All of them were kar sevaks who were returning after a religious ceremony at the disputed Babri Masjid site. Step 1 is to prove that he was lying. The Gujarat High Court, for instance, said that it was highly charged communal environment at that time, and the state administration should have been much more active in ensuring the protection of pilgrims, particularly in an area that was known to be prone to violence. In February 2002, thousands of devotees of Lord Rama (known as "Ramsevaks" or "Kar Sevaks") had gone from Gujarat to Ayodhya at the behest of the Vishva Hindu Parishad to take part in a ceremony called the Purnahuti Maha Yagna. It was a conspiracy, the court says but nobody knows who lit the match. On 27 February 2002, fifty-nine Hindu pilgrims, returning from Ayodhya after a religious ceremony at the Ram Temple site were burnt alive in the S-6 coach of Sabarmati Express. The High Court has upheld the 2011 special court ruling, convicting 31 and acquitting 63. The Great Hysteria and The Broken State– In this book I show why this is no Spanish flu and why lockdowns amount to public health terrorism. What followed was violence on a scale the State had never seen before. In any event, no evidence exists of any prior intent to kill. The train passes through MP, Rajasthan and Maharashtra also. Has justice been done in giving life imprisonment terms for 11 convicts of the Godhra train burning incident? As the train started leaving the platform, someone pull… Your email address will not be published. If he was not lying, then his inability to stop further deaths becomes a case of INCOMPETENCE or dereliction of duty, which is a smaller misdemeanour/crime. Why is the truth about how Coach S6 got burnt in Godhra so important to the case against Modi? On Sunday morning, a railway coach was set on fire in Vadodara to recreate 2002's Godhra train burning incident for Prime Minister Narendra Modi's biopic, reports IE.. Required fields are marked *, Select language:Hindi English(Press F12 to change language)Show Keyboard. Sixteen years ago, a train coach was burnt with its passengers still inside. rights reserved. I believe through his actions he incited Gujarat and CAUSED the mayhem that followed. Lastly, let me also add, I was in Gujarat, Gandhinagar at that time studying. Your email address will not be published. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.197.64.68 10:33, 27 July 2008 (UTC) Inconsistencies This is an absurd and silly analysis that is far from reality. It is well known that Indian police is under staffed, under-trained and under-paid. The horrific burning of 59 Hindus in coach S-6 of the Sabarmati Express at Godhra on 27 February 2002 and the deadly Muslim pogrom that followed is one of the worst ruptures in recent Indian history. Railway coach burnt to recreate Godhra incident for Modi. SIT report cites several instances. Sadly Sanjeev continues to ignore this aspect and prefers traditional myths that are propagated. Complaint to the International Criminal Court | Xi Jinping’s use of hysteria as warfare. I have strong proof that Modi has been lying from day one on this matter. In the Gujarat cases, because of interventions of the Supreme Court, the National Human Rights Commission, and the appointment of independent investigators, there has been progress in a number of cases. located in the administrative territorial entity: Godhra The Godhra Train Burning was an incident that occurred on the morning of 27 February 2002, in which 58 Hindu pilgrims karsevaks returning from Ayodhya, were killed in a fire inside the Sabarmati Express train near the Godhra railway station in the Indian state of Gujarat.. Our role is to ensure that the state abides by the constitution and upholds international standards. Godhra – Waiting For Justice One event that changed the political discourse of this country was the burning of the S-6 coach of the Sabarmati Express on 27th February, 2002, that resulted in the tragic death of 58 passengers travelling in the coach including … The High Court has upheld convictions after hearing appeals. How does that implicate Modi? The first charge-sheet in the Godhra Train Burning case was filed by DySP KC Bawa, the Investigating Officer, on 22nd May 2002 alleging that the S6 coach was burnt from outside by the use of some inflammable fluid (He did not clearly specify whether the inflammable fluid was petrol, kerosene or … Do you see these as sufficient reasons to rule out premeditated murder? The High Court, on October 10, ruled on an appeal in the Godhra case, commuting 11 death sentences to life imprisonment. No. Pl. If that is the case, then he is implicated as having AGGRAVATED and INCITED violence. And his total involvement in liquidation of key witnesses, killing innocents like Ishrat Jahan to justify that he was “under attack”, etc. Any analysis made must also take into account has Modi made Gujarat safer today? How can we explain the superior (on average) intellectual performance of the Brahmin ‘caste’. 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This narrative is very disturbing but still finds space in sensible societies -> "A kills B, so… Violently abusive murderous threats from a representative of BJP », http://www.hindu.com/2008/09/26/stories/2008092660541300.htm, http://sanjeev.sabhlokcity.com/Misc/The-truth-about-Modi.doc, http://www.jaia-bharati.org/nicole-elfi/ni-godhra-ang.htm, My Times of India blog and planned articles, FDA and WHO both agree now (after it was clear to everyone for a year) that PCR tests are defective, China’s fake videos and bullying to get the West to impose lockdowns #GreatCrime2020, Notes on the anti-liberty farmers agitation led by the communists and Congress, Tweets compiled under hashtag #LockdownCrimesAgainstHumanity, My next TOI blog post: The covid vaccine is good but the people must decide. I removed this sentence because it provides no information. Yet NANAWATI ADMITS THAT NO ONE SAW THIS PETROL BEING CARRIED. You forget (since clearly you are NOT interested in finding out!!) Read the orignal Patel judgement and Nanawati report (linked therein). Now show me HOW it was possible for the Godhra train to have got burnt in the manner of these official reports. Modi tookover in 2001, barely 6 months before the riots. Why the Godhra verdict is humane. But, of course, those responsible for these deaths need to be held to account. This is likely to have an impact in future as people are more likely maintain peace. The retaliatory spree of the rioting mob killed hundreds of Muslims, displacing thousands of others as homes were set on fire. Further, these seculars conveniently forget to mention how Gujarat remained quiet when Akshardham was attacked. Give his OWN Bandh call. I have SEVERE RSI. It has, however, we believe also upheld humane principles and commuted the death penalty to life imprisonment. It is crucial that the state draw some lessons. So to call it a Modi story as absurd requires more facts. If they wanted revenge, it could have been done in a neutral state like MP also. Nothing is clear from your reply. Riots continued for 5-6 days and thousands of people continued to indulge in violence. 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Whose cause do you fight for? It's All about Fact and Truth One question, Nanavati Commission had rejected that Sofia story. 04 Mar 2019: Railway coach burnt to recreate Godhra incident for Modi's biopic . I’ve TORN THEM INTO SHREDS. "In this Godhra Train Burning incident it got burnt either from outside or inside the train." From the ground level, the height of the bund could be about 12–15 feet and it is a slope. Coach S-6 of the Sabarmati Express, in which 59 people, mostly 'kar sevaks'?returning from Ayodhya, were travelling, was burnt on February 27, 2002 at Godhra station, triggering riots in the state. Was there any justice in those riots? To understand the Godhra incident, we will have to begin our journey in another city - Ayodhya. 2. Some of them carry stoves with kerosene in them. The train reached Godhra railway station five hours late, at about 7.45 am, though it was scheduled to arrive there at 2.45 am. 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